Legislature(2003 - 2004)

04/13/2004 03:25 PM House FIN

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HOUSE BILL NO. 418                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     An Act extending the termination date of the Real                                                                          
     Estate Commission; and providing for an effective date.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE NORMAN  ROKEBERG, SPONSOR, explained  the bill                                                                   
noting  that AS  08.88.010 has  established  the Real  Estate                                                                   
Commission  (REC), providing  for appointment  of members  by                                                                   
the Governor.   The Commission  consists of five  real estate                                                                   
brokers  or associate  brokers,  one from  each  of the  four                                                                   
judicial  districts and  two public  members.   The bill,  if                                                                   
enacted  would extend  the Commission  operation for  another                                                                   
four years to June 30, 2008.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The  Commission  serves  the   public  interest  by  adopting                                                                   
regulations to carry  out the laws governing  the practice of                                                                   
real estate  in Alaska.   It approves  education courses  and                                                                   
instructors,  makes  final  licensing   decisions  and  takes                                                                   
disciplinary action against people  who violate the licensing                                                                   
laws.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Rokeberg   advised  that  Legislative   Audit                                                                   
recommends REC be extended.  The  regulation and licensing of                                                                   
real   estate   professionals   provides   necessary   public                                                                   
protection  in  the buying  and  selling of  residential  and                                                                   
commercial properties.   He recommended that  REC be extended                                                                   
to June 30, 2008, and urged passage.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
He pointed out amendments made  by the House Labor & Commerce                                                                   
Committee, which address two issues:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
   ·    Home inspectors, and                                                                                                    
   ·    Requests   from   the   Division    of   Occupational                                                                   
        Licensing, cleaning up statutory language.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Rokeberg highlighted the sectional analysis:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
   ·    Section 1 extends the sunset for the Real Estate                                                                        
                             th                                                                                                 
        Commission to June 30, 2008.                                                                                            
   ·    Section 2 addresses the question of dual insurance.                                                                   
        Current law requires each licensee to have                                                                              
        insurance.                                                                                                              
   ·    Sections 3 & 4 were requested by the Division of                                                                        
        Insurance and clear up language regarding inactive                                                                      
       real estate licenses and address notification.                                                                           
   ·    Section 5 addresses continuing education for a                                                                          
        person who has a transitional home inspector                                                                            
        license.                                                                                                                
   ·    Section 6 allows for the act to take effect                                                                             
        immediately.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Rokeberg  referenced   Amendment  #1,   #23-                                                                   
LS1548\H.1, Mischel, 3/1/04.  (Copy on File).                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Williams asked  if the amendment  had received  any                                                                   
other committee hearings.  Co-Chair  Harris reported that the                                                                   
bill  had received  rigorous debate  in the  House Labor  and                                                                   
Commerce Committee.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Harris  MOVED  to ADOPT  Amendment  #1.    Co-Chair                                                                   
Williams  OBJECTED  and noted  that  he  wished it  had  been                                                                   
addressed in the previous committee.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stoltze  recommended that Amendment  #1 needed                                                                   
to have more public  in put.  He referenced Page  1, Line 10,                                                                   
deleting   language   "American  Home   Inspectors   Training                                                                   
Institute", indicating that it  would be good to hear if that                                                                   
change was supported.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Rokeberg responded that  he had no  objection                                                                   
to removing the  language.  He pointed out  that organization                                                                   
was added  in the Senate Judiciary  Committee last year.   He                                                                   
understood that  the distinction was substantially  different                                                                   
and that the requirements were not adequate.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stoltze  MOVED  to  ADOPT  the  amendment  to                                                                   
Amendment #1.   Co-Chair Harris  OBJECTED and asked  if there                                                                   
was  a problem  with  that  group.   Representative  Rokeberg                                                                   
replied that  they had lobbied  to get placement in  the bill                                                                   
last year with the Chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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Representative  Rokeberg  agreed that  the  amendment to  the                                                                   
amendment would  be appropriate.   Co-Chair Harris  asked why                                                                   
the public felt that way.  Representative  Rokeberg responded                                                                   
that  the   other  included   organizations  are   much  more                                                                   
thorough.   The course  of instruction  by the American  Home                                                                   
Inspectors  is  only  six days  and  includes  50  questions;                                                                   
whereas, the other  exam is a longer course of  study and has                                                                   
250 questions.  It is a more arduous course of study.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Harris WITHDREW his OBJECTION  to amending Amendment                                                                   
#1.  There being  NO further OBJECTION, the  amendment was to                                                                   
Amendment #1 was adopted.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft inquired  if the  first portion  of the                                                                   
amendment   adds   a   continuing    education   requirement.                                                                   
Representative  Rokeberg  responded  that  was  part  of  the                                                                   
original bill.   Representative Croft asked  what the section                                                                   
would be adding.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
JANET   SEITZ,   STAFF,   REPRESENTATIVE   NORMAN   ROKEBERG,                                                                   
explained  that when  the regulations  were developed,  there                                                                   
were problems the Division had  in distinguishing between who                                                                   
needed  continuing education  and who  did not.   It was  the                                                                   
original intent  that once the  party got their  license, the                                                                   
only  thing   they  would  need   would  be  the   continuing                                                                   
education.   The  amendment makes  it  clear that  inspectors                                                                   
must submit  the application within  one year of  passing the                                                                   
exam, or  they demonstrate  the documentation  that  they had                                                                   
passed  the  exam, or  they  could  show  that they  had  the                                                                   
continuing education requirement.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft requested  clarification if they  would                                                                   
have  to  apply  within  one   year,  adding  the  additional                                                                   
language  of proof  of  a continuing  education  requirement.                                                                   
Ms.  Seitz responded  that  it  would be  either  one or  the                                                                   
other.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Croft  asked   what  was  the   "residential                                                                   
combination examination".   Ms.  Seitz replied that  when the                                                                   
Division was  developing the  regulations, under  the current                                                                   
law, the  passing of  the building  inspector examination,  a                                                                   
person would  have to  pass four separate  exams.   The combo                                                                   
examination  is  a  "4  in 1"  exam  and  instead  of  taking                                                                   
separate exams,  the qualifying  person takes only  the combo                                                                   
exam.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft  advised  that the  fee  for  licensing                                                                   
would be $200 dollars.  He inquired  if the fee had been left                                                                   
out when  previously passed.   Ms. Seitz replied that  it had                                                                   
been left out.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Williams  WITHDREW  his OBJECTION  to  the  amended                                                                   
Amendment #1.   There being  NO further OBJECTION,  Amendment                                                                   
#1 was adopted.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Harris inquired if the bill had received an audit.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
PAT   DAVIDSON,  LEGISLATIVE   AUDITOR,   LEGISLATIVE   AUDIT                                                                   
DIVISION,  replied  that  an   audit  had  been  done  and  a                                                                   
recommendation was  made for a four-year extension.   Further                                                                   
recommendations made were:                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
   ·    To increase the ceiling for the real estate assurity                                                                    
        fund;                                                                                                                   
   ·    To create a reasonable due notice when claims are                                                                       
        approved;                                                                                                               
   ·    To clarify that if a real estate agent was involved                                                                     
        in the sale of a mobile home, the transaction be                                                                        
        covered by the real estate assurity fund.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Davidson  acknowledged that the third  recommendation was                                                                   
accompanied  by controversy  and  that the  Division did  not                                                                   
mean that  all mobile home  sales had  to be handled  by real                                                                   
estate agents.   That would not  be recommended.   They would                                                                   
need that only to the extent that  if a real estate agent was                                                                   
involved,  the  transaction would  then  be  covered by  that                                                                   
fund.  The proposed bill does not address that concern.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Foster MOVED to  report CS HB 418 (FIN) out of                                                                   
Committee  with  individual  recommendations   and  with  the                                                                   
accompanying fiscal  note.  There being NO  OBJECTION, it was                                                                   
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CS HB  418 (FIN)  was reported  out of  Committee with  a "do                                                                   
pass"  recommendation  and with  a  new  fiscal note  by  the                                                                   
Department of Community & Economic Development.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                

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